Indiana-North Carolina Open Thread/ Live-Bloggish Thing
Hey, so, there are primaries ending tonight, didja hear? Not that any of my fellow cynical founders are around at the moment, so we’re not exactly trading quips tonight but at least one of us it watching it anyway and nursing a headache and feeling write-y, so I’ll leave some thoughts here after the jump, but comment away here yourself.
6:43: Mort Kondrache on Fox calls out Bill Kristol for wanting the weakest possible Democratic ticket by suggesting Obama repair the rift in the party by offering the VP slot to Hillary. Bill calls Mort either a racist or a sexist, not that he would vote for that ticket himself. Megan decides she needs a drink more than she needs dinner.
6:55: Bill Hemmer and some other guy tell me a bunch of crap about Indiana I didn’t really care about. I don’t know why Bill Hemmer got less cute after he left CNN, but he did. He also doesn’t have John King’s flatscreen technique.
7:00: They didn’t call Indiana for Hillary yet, but she’s winning in the early numbers and does better, according to exit polls, with Democrats, Republicans (who can vote in the open primary), white men and old people.
7:05: Got up to get food. Karl Rove was on. What he said sounded reasonable but I couldn’t see his face. Could’ve used the assistance with my diet.
7:12: Brit Hume doesn’t inspire me to anything. I’d change the channel, but I’m already eating and typing. They still haven’t called anything. Why does anyone pay Bill Kristol to talk?
7:21: Finished dinner. Changed to MSNBC. Olbermann is definitely cute. Rachel Maddow is kind of small, huh? I love that she calls Pat Buchanan on his shit. I hope it makes him uncomfortable to sit next to a lesbian out of embarrassment for all his homophobic shit over the years. I don’t really care about people punditing about potential results of potential results. I don’t care. Maddow says that crossover turnout is very high in both states and that there’s supposed “mischief-making,” i.e., the Limbaugh-is-fucking-with-us vote.
7:30: MSNBC calls North Carolina for Obama. Guess it’s not that close, but it’s pretty clear. They want to know the margins but, yawn, that’ll come later. Time for a drink, as the Advil just kicked in for the headache.
7:33: Tom Brokaw looks like shit. Allergies? Impending doom? Please speculate for me.
7:44: Blah, blah, old white people like Clinton, everyone else likes Obama, read my post at Glamocracy, thanks. Commercials mean I finally have time to open my bottle of wine.
7:50: Keith Olberman clarifies that the Indiana race isn’t “too close” to call, it’s “too early” to call. I think that means Hillary won. I also grabbed a piece of super dark chocolate to complement my wine.
7:52: Whoa! That is some short skirt on Nora O’Donnell. She must know it because she seems frighteningly glued to her mark. I guess the producers didn’t tell her she’d be standing? Also, would like a second opinion on whether her shoes match. My instincts say no.
7:58: Michael Barone on Fox tries to explain why they haven’t called Indiana yet, since the raw vote (34% in) is 57-43 to Hillary and the exit polls are 58-42 for Hillary. Barone said it’s because no one has bothered voting in Indiana primaries for 40 years, Lake County (in NW Indiana) hasn’t shown any results yet and Marion County, the biggest county in the state that includes Indianapolis, has only reported about 24%. Other than that, Hillary’s strong in the rural places, obviously. I think this means she’s going to win. Shepherd Smith, my favorite Newsgay(TM) is on now!
8:06: He got all riled up about Wright, so I was bored. Why doesn’t Rove keep what little is left of his hair shorter? Also, he’s talking about Hillary pandering on the gas tax. He doesn’t mention McCain’s gas tax plan. The interviewer guy asks him if her BS working-class, she-has-balls put-on persona is working and Rove says “It is convincing to middle- and lower-class voters” and OMG he’s an elitist! But we already knew that so, yawn. What the fuck is up with Indiana.
8:15: Fred Barnes thinks its weird Bill Clinton would live in the White House if Hillary is elected President. What?
8:22: Fox News is talking about the bullshit McCain judges speech today. Apparently, they’re bored too. Switching back to MSNBC.
8:25: Howard Fineman says the Obama camp thinks that they’ll have a majority of pledged delegates after Kentucky and Oregon (May 20th) and thus garner the rest of the supers because of the size of the win in North Carolina (currently better than 60-40 with 11% in).
8:32: Keith tells me in his dulcet tones that exit polls say that 11% of the voters in Indiana tonight are registered Republicans, but that exit polls indicate that they’re voting 52-48 percent for Clinton over Obama, which is close to the actual vote split. Chris Matthews intones that of course that’s what Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos minions would want us to believe. Keith pretty obviously rolls his eyes.
8:45: Axelrod is on MSNBC from North Carolina. Needs to go back to a fully shaven head.
9:06: Still no answers. Many ways to repeat the same information.
9:10: Barry speaks. Michelle looks awesome.
9:35: Barry is the new Bill Clinton. 25 minutes? I stopped caring after 10.
9:50: No results called in Indiana with 75% in. Obama’s lead in North Carolina down to 56-44 52.
10:05: Keith and Russert and talking about pizza. Now I’m fucking hungry and there are no good delivery places here. God, pizza in the DC Metro area sucks.
10:26: MSNBC says late ballots in Lake County, Indiana won’t be counted until midnight. Fuck this, I’ll see you on the comment threads.
10:29: Never mind, she’s speaking at 10:30. Lame.
10:30: Of course Evan Bayh is introducing her. Can anyone be more obviously running for a Cabinet seat? Ha, Brian Williams says he’s probably sweating bullets wondering if he might not actually be able to deliver his state to her. Well, sucker. That’s what you get for hating your home state.
10:38: Hillary’s speech just started. I believe she just declared victory. The whole family is wearing shades of light blue. Chelsea, like usual, looks cute.
10:39: She comments Obama on his victory in North Carolina. She hasn’t done that in a while.
10:40: Her supporters start shouting “Yes we will!” That’s stupid. And it takes her 2 minutes to ask for donations. Wow, she must really be in the red.
10:51: Hillary says “Didn’t Chelsea do a great job?” And Chelsea grins and rolls her eyes in exactly the way I would if my mom was embarrassing me in public. I like Chelsea.
10:58: On the basis of hating really long speeches, I liked hers better. Also, Matthews and my boy Keith think that the speeches were them coming to some sort of détente, though I didn’t see that but they probably paid more attention than I did because I don’t have that much of an attention span and am IM’ing like 4 friends all at once on the side.
11:04: Go read my other post on Glamocracy.
11:16: Chris Matthews just sang some horrible show tune about Gary, Indiana. What the fuck? Rachel Maddow yelled at someone. One of my friends and I discussed why I’m single. I don’t care anymore until Indiana gives me what I want.
11:33: Chuck Todd is talking about how Hillary can end up as the VP candidate. Are we fucking kidding?
11:41: The Independent Women’s Forum lady (that’s a conservative group, btw), just said she’s sure Hillary will promise more coal mining jobs to West Virginia and that she’s got a plan to pander to voters in every state. I now think I should excise that thought from my mind because I don’t want to agree with her.
11:43: Chris Matthews tells all the assholes who participated in Limbaugh’s operation chaos that they should be ashamed of themselves for taking the vote that other people have fought and died for and using it to make mischief and screw up our political system.
11:44: The race in Indiana is now down to 20,000 votes between Obama and Clinton. I guess it’s good I had a nap and don’t sleep that well anyway.
11:51: Nora O’Donnell is pregnant, right? She looks kind of pregnant. But I like her dress (despite the shortness) and love, love, love her necklace.
12:01: The press is all excited that Barry might upset the applecart in Indiana. I think this means he won’t. But I’m a pessimist.
12:11: I love Chuck Todd on MSNBC. He’s so deliciously nerdy. Here’s his breakdown. This race is going to come down to a few thousand — 5,000, 10,000 votes — in Indiana, which is one delegate, total (and the final tally may go through morning with some outstanding absentee ballots, but no matter). Barry’s win in North Carolina erases Hillary’s lead in Pennsylvania and, after tonight, even IF she could convince the DNC to let the Michigan and Florida delegates vote at the convention, he would still lead her by about 100 pledged delegates and 200,000 in the popular vote. Given the states remaining and her margins in those states, she can’t and won’t be able claim either the “total” pledged delegates or the popular vote, which leaves her nothing on which to hang her hat with the superdelegates. MSNBC is reporting that she’s canceled her TV appearances in the morning as well as all her personal appearances tomorrow, which can’t be a good sign. They think she’s got to be done, and Russert says that the superdelegates that would’ve been willing to pledge to Obama in exchange for her being the Number Two (my pun, intended) won’t have a leg to stand on to twist his arm to get him to take her on the ticket.
12:25: Rachel Maddow shouts down Pat Buchanan. I love this point in the evening. Kick his geezer ass, my bitch!
12:34: Ok, now, for real, fuck it. I have to be up at 7:00 to blog for you bitches. Someone else watch the tubes, I’m gonna get some sleep. Right now, 95% of the vote is in and the difference between Hillary and Obama is something like 16,000 votes. That’s about the # of absentee ballots ain’t gonna be counted until the morning. I’ll catch you kids then.





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